silicon that will do "x" we'll buy it, we don't care whether you're ibm or a bunch of engineers down in houston, texas, working for texas instruments. today the government would say you give us a battery with this kind of energy density or solar cell with this degree of efficiency, and we'll buy it, whether it comes from general electric or three guys in the garage and we'll pull you down the learning curve. we'll pull you down. >> obviously -- >> the united states is still the creator innovations, all of the innovations have come from here the last 20 years? >> i think the united states remains a continuing leader at the frontier of innovation, but there are others that are catching up. >> the book is called "doing capitalism in the innovation economy." bill, nice to have you. we'd love to have you back. anybody who likes to throw it down with our friend will cain. >> i look forward to it. >> it's done and done. you heard him say yes. we have to take a break. still ahead this morning, we'll be talking about north korea launching that satellite into orbit. we're hearing there are problems, they